{"id":2613,"date":"2025-01-07T06:47:41","date_gmt":"2025-01-07T06:47:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bullseye.ac\/blog\/?p=2613"},"modified":"2025-01-07T06:47:44","modified_gmt":"2025-01-07T06:47:44","slug":"the-cultural-clash-ebays-struggle-in-china","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bullseye.ac\/blog\/book-reviews-summary\/the-cultural-clash-ebays-struggle-in-china\/","title":{"rendered":"The Cultural Clash: eBay&#8217;s Struggle in China"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Number of words: 1,994<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>eBay\u2019s biggest mistake was in getting the culture wrong. A \u201cleave it to the experts\u201d attitude demoralized the original EachNet team in Shanghai, as eBay executives were parachuted in from headquarters in San Jose or other parts of the eBay empire. No matter how skilled the new arrivals, most spoke no Chinese. They faced a steep learning curve to understand the local market. Key EachNet team members started to leave, their exit interviews revealing concerns that San Jose no longer involved them in key decisions. eBay had sent over a number of China-born executives, but most had studied or worked in the United States for many years, sparking misunderstandings or friction with the local team. EachNet found itself at a serious disadvantage to the 100 percent local Taobao.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This gap was reflected in the design of the two rivals\u2019 websites. eBay moved quickly to align the EachNet site with its global site, revamping how products were categorized and altering the design and functionality of the website. This not only confused customers, but also alienated a number of important merchants who saw their previously valuable China account names had been deleted. This invalidated their trading history and forced them to scramble to reapply for new names on an unfamiliar global platform. Worse still, the Chinese website lacked a customer service telephone number. eBay\u2019s China site, modeled closely on eBay in the States, looked foreign to local users, who found it \u201cempty\u201d when compared to local sites.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In website design, culture matters. In the West, websites like Google had become popular for their clean lines and uncluttered \u201cnegative space.\u201d But to the mass market of Chinese Web users, accustomed to pop-ups and floating banner ads, they seemed static and dull. As you can see for yourself by opening taobao.com, successful Chinese websites are typically packed with information and multimedia graphics, requiring many scroll-downs to see the whole page. From its outset Taobao has been a website built by Chinese for Chinese. And it worked.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s not just the graphics that helped Taobao connect with consumers. Taobao structured its website like a local bazaar, even featuring innovative ideas such as allowing male or female shoppers to click on a button to display products most suited to their interests. The design of the site makes it the virtual descendant of the Yiwu wholesale market, where Jack and many other Zhejiang entrepreneurs draw their inspiration. The founder of another, niche e-commerce venture explained, \u201cIf you go to Yiwu, you can order as little as three pairs of shoes. One factory specializes in soles, another in the uppers, another factory\u2014or perhaps a small village\u2014specializes in the laces. Taobao tapped the motivation of those small merchants to make money.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For companies like eBay and Amazon, their experience in the United States and other Western markets proved to be of little use. \u201cE-commerce in China is very strange,\u201d the rival e-commerce founder continued. \u201cIt started with C2C (consumer-to-consumer) and with nonstandardized products. This was unlike Amazon, unlike the conventional wisdom where you need to start with standardized products, like books. The more standardized the supply chain, the higher the barriers for e-tailers. All the smaller, mom-and-pop stores selling nonstandardized products are more accommodating, more flexible in supplying goods. That\u2019s unique to China. The lack of national supply chains removed the barriers to entry that exist in the West, making it possible for individuals to make money.22 By starting with C2C, it made the price factor very appealing. Individuals23 can be happy to make even five <em>mao <\/em>(less than 1 U.S. cent) on a sale.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Again aided by its roots in Zhejiang, Taobao outsmarted eBay by having a better understanding of the country\u2019s merchants, for whom membership has been free of charge from the outset. Just as free listings was a core principle for the B2B Alibaba.com, it became a key competitive weapon for Taobao.com, too. Buyers pay nothing to register or transact; sellers pay nothing to register, list their products, or sell online.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>EachNet had started out with free listings, but faced with spiraling costs in August 2001, it started to charge listing fees to sellers, adding commissions on all transactions the following year. These resulted in a sharp reduction in the number of auctions on the site, but given the state of the VC markets, EachNet management felt they had no choice. The decision to start charging fees, core to eBay\u2019s model, ironically fueled its interest in buying EachNet. But once eBay was in charge in China, it pushed the fee culture much more aggressively than Bo and his team. eBay\u2019s vice president for global marketing, Bill Cobb, summed it up:24 \u201cWe\u2019re mainly interested in making sure that we structure this to have long-term sustainability. We have the essential eBay format\u2014the insertion fees, final-value fees, and features fees\u2014though at a lower level.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Meanwhile, Taobao\u2019s decision to forgo charging fees was not without risk, since it forced it to look to other ways of generating revenues, especially if the site became popular and drove up operating costs. But making the site free for both shoppers and merchants turned out to be the key factor in ensuring Taobao\u2019s triumph over eBay. A research paper25 that analyzed more than a decade\u2019s worth of transaction data on Taobao concludes26 that in the early phase of the company\u2019s history, attracting merchants, who in China are especially allergic to paying fees, was more important than attracting shoppers. Taobao\u2019s popularity was fueled by a \u201cvirtuous circle\u201d: More merchants and product listings meant more shoppers were attracted to the site, which meant more merchants and products, etc.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In addition to being popular with consumers, offering free services ensured that Taobao was not distracted by a persistent problem that plagued EachNet from the beginning: worrying about how to prevent vendors and consumers from figuring out ways to use the website simply as a place to connect with one another, then conducting their transactions offline or through other means. As Taobao charged no fees, they had no incentive to police this behavior. On the contrary, Taobao actively encouraged communications between the transacting parties by setting up bulletin boards and, beginning in June 2004, launching an embedded, proprietary chat window with the unfortunately in English named AliWangwang.27 Buyers on the site use the service to haggle with sellers, which resonates well with the vibrant marketplace culture in China. Communication is a key underpinning of commerce, but eBay users struggled to communicate with vendors.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Designed with input from Taobao users, AliWangwang is an early example of the type of \u201cconsumer-driven innovation\u201d that drives successful technology firms in China today, such as the role that cell phone vendor Xiaomi\u2019s fan club plays in suggesting new product features.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To this day, AliWangwang remains a popular feature on Taobao, allowing consumers to maintain their own list of personal purveyors\u2014one, say, for cosmetics, another for baby formula\u2014who are at their beck and call around the clock. Customer service on Taobao is so good that it can be overwhelming. A purchase on Taobao is often accompanied by a flurry of messages on AliWangwang, a series of virtual bows and scrapes from merchant to customer, who may have a hard time exiting the conversation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But whatever the \u201cpull\u201d of Taobao, a decision by eBay in September 2004 would serve to \u201cpush\u201d many of EachNet\u2019s customers away. eBay executives in San Jose decided to \u201cmigrate\u201d the China website to the United States. Instead of hosting the website close to customers in China, it was shifted to the States. In a borderless Internet, where a website is hosted shouldn\u2019t matter. But China\u2019s is not a borderless Internet. Today the Chinese government is actively promoting its vision of \u201cInternet sovereignty\u201d around the world: a rejection of the idea that a nation-state\u2019s virtual borders should be less meaningful than its actual frontiers. In China, the effects of the government\u2019s longstanding efforts to build and extend the \u201cGreat Firewall of China\u201d often means websites hosted overseas are much slower to load than those hosted in China itself. All Web traffic accessing sites hosted outside the mainland has to go through a series of chokepoints where the request is screened. This is to ensure that a foreign website does not display material the Chinese government deems \u201csensitive,\u201d including the \u201cthree T\u2019s\u201d (Tibet, Taiwan, and Tiananmen Square). These and other sensitive topics, such as unrest in Xinjiang, are widely thought to have been the reason that China has blocked some of the world\u2019s leading websites, from Twitter to YouTube to Facebook and, increasingly, Google.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>While e-commerce and online shopping typically don\u2019t touch on these sensitive areas, the Great Firewall can often ensnare or seemingly block even anodyne activities or requests. For example, once eBay had moved its servers outside China, a user who happened to have a \u201c64\u201d or an \u201c89\u201d as part of his or her username might see their account blocked or be unable to access the Internet\u2014the reason being that both numbers automatically trigger the censors in China as part of the effort to block any mentions of the events in Tiananmen Square on June 4, 1989 (6\/4\/89).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>eBay had its reasons for the migration. As the business grew in China, the engineers in San Jose worried whether the platform built by a Shanghai-based start-up could cope. It turned out that EachNet had built robust technology, capable of scaling up by even a hundred times. But after a series of site outages that had damaged its reputation at home, eBay had become obsessed with the stability of its platform. eBay pushed ahead with the China migration anyway. The attraction of a unified worldwide site with a consistent set of features was just too hard to resist.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Some senior executives within eBay already knew that migration would be a mistake\u2014the company had already seen the damaging impact in Taiwan\u2014but bizarrely eBay managers in Taipei were blocked by migration-obsessed managers in San Jose from sharing their experience with the team in Shanghai.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As predicted, as soon as the China site was migrated and integrated into the global site, the impact on EachNet\u2019s traffic was disastrous: It dropped off precipitously. Customers in China started to experience long delays and time-outs on the site. Why would they bother to wait for eBay in China \u2014a site that charged fees\u2014when Taobao was available instantly and for free?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Migration was also costly for eBay because the company typically carried out maintenance of its servers every Thursday at midnight on the West Coast, ahead of the peak traffic of Friday. But this meant the disruption happened at the peak of China traffic, fifteen hours ahead of San Jose. EachNet tried to adjust the maintenance schedule but with no success.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Meg Whitman had made China a key priority for eBay. But when migration caused traffic in China to plummet, no one told her. She found out only a month later on a visit to Shanghai, and she was furious at not having been kept informed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Things quickly spiraled out of control for the company in China. Once the website had been migrated to the United States, all modification requests from engineers in China were stacked up in what the company called a \u201ctrain seat\u201d system. Departments would submit their requests for changes, and like an assembly-line process these were then lined up and consolidated into a \u201ctrain of needs.\u201d Changing one word on the site would take nine weeks. Changing one feature would take one year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How could eBay be so inefficient? There are two explanations. First, eBay had an effective monopoly in the States, and this bred complacency. Second, despite its Silicon Valley aura, eBay was never very strong at technology. One eBay executive famously once said, in public, \u201cEven a monkey could run this business.\u201d After the embarrassing site outages, stability and process trumped technology.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Excerpted from page&nbsp; of \u2018Alibaba: The House that Jack Ma built\u2019 by Duncan Clark<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Number of words: 1,994 eBay\u2019s biggest mistake was in getting the culture wrong. A \u201cleave it to the experts\u201d attitude demoralized the original EachNet team in Shanghai, as eBay executives were parachuted in from headquarters in San Jose or other parts of the eBay empire. 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